The Argonauts John or Jean Francois ???????

[ballfrog]

I am with you on that Grumpie. Sometimes when the viz is bad, its whether or not something feels like its man made. I have so much Aquaseal on the fingertips of my 7mm gloves that I can't even feel much with them. Cant wait for warmer water to get out and do some muck diving barehanded.

I prefer nitrile gloves for digging in the muck.  The string-dipped kind.  Not only are they a fraction of the cost of neoprene gloves, they last longer and provide a little protection from sharp things while allowing for good feeling and grip.