Diver one of sixteen to die using high-tech gear
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03-03-2003, 11:59 AM,
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Re:Diver one of sixteen to die using high-tech gear
Oh, the whole truth, and nothing but the ugly truthâ¦
So let me understand here, DRE, you asked âGeorge if I could use his article and he was fine with that.â So, you donât know what youâre talking about from personal experience, but wanted to bubble an opinion yet originally state it as if it was your words without experience DIVING or trying out CCR units themselves? With the reasoned claim of âI don't have to be a rebreather diver to form an opinion about them - I don't even need to know per se all the technical details involved with the unit (although I did do my homework) to know that they're extremely dangerous to useâ⦠how is it you KNOW they are more dangerous?? Anything more complicated doesnât mean more dangerous, isnât it down to the end-user? Should we all put away our OC gear in favor of snorkeling as snorkeling is less complicated and has less risk? And how would I KNOW that, because I have personal experience and training in both. For example: Iâve heard that racecars are more dangerous and more complicated than regular passenger cars, but I donât KNOW that they are. So when I look at the statistics, so many more injuries are involved with passenger cars every day than racecars. Racecar drivers seemed to be better skilled, have more of an experienced knowledge base on driving, and are better at task loading than the average commuter - and the statistics prove that there are less skilled, less educated, less safe drivers out there in ânormalâ cars than racecars - but itâs the big crashes on TV that make it seem more risky for the racers. This is all an analogy alluding to the opinions expressed from those who simply donât KNOW about what you are talking about when it comes to the Inspiration. - To borrow someone elseâs words as your own and then admit to doing so only after someone points it out seems a little unfortunate. Careful with what you type, you donât want to lose your credibility, do you? Stick with what you DO KNOW, don't seem to âactâ (in approach and wording) as if you are an authority in many of these advanced diver threads.) - Think about all those who are following the forum here and how they can REALLY learn some GREAT insight and expand their future diving, not just feed someoneâs desire for God complex. I suggest those in the forum, not to go around making statements that seem as if they were truth, that they don't have to PERSONAL experience with just to form an opinion it â to know some of the technical details involved doesnât mean you âKNOWâ anything. The example that the Inspiration HAS changed is a big clue to this. As I see many of the opinions formed based of things from the past and not a working knowledge of what refinements, improvements, and adjustments have been made. Let us not all go on forums saying, âTHE SKY IS FALLINGâ without knowing the CURRENTS facts. Reasoned arguments and developing true knowledge development happens when we ASK questions, not as we STATE what we think we know as truth. DRE, just because you âapproached CERTAIN rebreather divers⦠they got so defensive no reasoned arguments either pro or con followedâ doesnât warrant you speaking as if you know what you are talking about against RBâs without the experience or having looked further for more open-minded and open-attitude rebreather divers who could inform you properly. Donât fall back into a pitfall or superiority complex with rebuttals such as, âI thought it was interesting you brought up the fact that in your diving you've come at a point that CCR's are THE ONLY WAY TO GO in terms of gas management.â I donât believe any of the responses youâve received said anything about the terms of ONLY way to do anything. This forum is better characterized without comments of ONLY ways to do ANYTHING, and instead leaving your question that what you asked in, âIf you wouldn't mind sharing some of the details of those dives and how you calculate them in terms of gas management that would be very informative.â This is not to try and create a situation where DRE or anyone else should be on the defensive. Forums are the free exchange of ideas an opinions, but they all end being the same crap on so many others where a few people decide to take over arguments until it is found that one person backs down. And by the way, I LOVE my snorkel, I get to see more of the underwater world at the surface unlike those who are floating on their backs LOL Just trying to lightening the mood after my little gurggle on how I think things should be Of course, ALL of this is just my OPINION, itâs not like I KNOW anything ;D |
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